Missing Ancestors?
It didn’t take long to figure out that people don’t actually disappear into the abyss. Perhaps my research needed to be more thorough. Had I really researched all of my sources? Two commonly forgotten sources are prison records and mental health facility records.
Not everyone can boast that at any given time one, or more, ancestor was being treated in the State Hospital, but I usually exclaim that my family actually had a wing at the Kansas - Osawatomie State Hospital, also known as the “State Insane Asylum.” (This claim usually gets me off the hook from odd or peculiar behavior.)
I’ve always heard of poor Great-Aunt Hattie and her mental unrest, and I remember dear Grandma Maggie who died in the Larned State Hospital (KS), a psychiatric facility, but what about the others who can’t be accounted for using normal means?
There was the case of 3rd Great-Uncle Willis Cox and his daughter Freddie Reba (Cox) Looney. (I’m not making up that surname). They both disappeared about the same time. Last noted, Willis was living in the Coffeyville, Kansas area and Freddie Reba had left husband number two (Jake Looney) and was living in Washington County, Oklahoma, close to the Kansas border. Both Willis and daughter Freddie Reba dropped off the radar between 1910 - 1920.
By running a quick check with the state hospitals, both were found as patients in the Osawatomie State Hospital. Yes, coincidental (or disadvantaged gene pool), but they were both there.
Finding Records
The biggest issue was not in locating them, but trying to pull their medical records. Osawatomie will not share, or do not own, the patient’s files. However, as luck would have it, Willis Cox’s medical records from the State Hospital were complete with his Civil War Pension records. In the survey for family medical history, a bit of information from the attending physicians was also provided about Freddie Reba’s stay.
I suggest as you expand your research for that missing ancestor, you go a little mental!
Kathleen Brandt
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Kathleen,
ReplyDeleteYou might check with the Kansas State Historical Society -- I know that they have patient records from the Topeka State Hospital. I'm not sure about other Kansas asylums.
I am searching for info./records for my great-grandmother Amaranth Kelly Watkins. She was an "inmate" at Larned State Hospital. I've found the roster upon which she is listed, but no further info. I am plowing through Kansas State Historical Society site, but no luck as yet. With the backward attitude towards mental health issues in the 30's-50's, her presumed time there, everything was very hush, hush within the family.
DeleteI’m looking for records of my grandmothers stay in Osowatomie Ks
DeleteThese records, or at least the cards, are held at the Kansas State Historical in Topeka. You may also find more details through the coroner records.
DeleteGood post!
ReplyDeleteI have one relative in particular that was institutionalized and have had a terrible time getting a hold of the records.
Thanks for sharing your story.
~Regina
Here in New Hampshire I cannot see the records without a court order. And even then, I cannot take notes or photograph anything they might finally let me peek at. And I'm looking for a record from the 1840s! I don't think privacy is an issue for this ancestor anymore, but I'm not sure I'm going to pursue it any further...
ReplyDeleteOur "family wing" was at Clarinda, Iowa. Thank you for a very useful and insightful post... good information and reminders.
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I had a great Aunt that was in Clarinda State Hospital from 1930-1940. How do I find more info on that as to why she was there? I'd love to know her story.
DeleteState Historical Societies and other repositories do have archived records if they were submitted by the institution.
ReplyDeleteMy mother, Betty Joyce Ward Smith, died at Osawatomie State Hospital. (1956.) She had been admitted for schizophrenia. Family lore says that she was given shock treatments, and that caused a pulmonary embolism, which killed her. The family was so "shocked"
ReplyDeletewe still can't get over it.--
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Dianne,
ReplyDeleteThanks for stopping by and posting. Unfortunately, this was more common than one would think. I'm sorry to hear that you and your family went through this. And, yes, the real "shock" is usually to the family left behind.
I found this site with a google search because I have more than one relative that I believe spent time at the Osawatatomie State Hospital. Is there any way for me to find out?
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I am looking for a relative (my deceased father's adoptive) mother, who I just found out was at Osawatatomie State Hospital. We were always told she had died. I know she was still there in 1961 and most likely had been there 20 yrs. Her name was Esther Larson. How can I find out any more information? Thanks!
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In the state of Kansas, many records are held at Osawatomie are closed and not detailed. There is an index. But since you already know she was there, you can also request a state death certificate, funeral records may also have details on her death or stay at Osawatomie. You will need to do a full search however, since there are several Esther Larson's in Kansas (Hutchinson, Salina, etc).
ReplyDeleteHi, I just learned (via 1940 census) that my great-grandmother was in Osawatomie. I do not know how long she was there or when she died. How can I access the index? Is it by year? Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.
DeleteI am needing to find records for a 1920's mental hospital near Enid Oklahoma. We believe my great grandmother was taken there and would like to know where she is buried or what happened to her. Does anyone have any suggestion? thank you
ReplyDeleteKakers(?)Have you ordered a death certificate from the state of Oklahoma yet? Death certificates will give quite a bit of information on burial location/funeral information etc. and if she died in the mental hospital, it will also list it. There were several papers in that area for the 1920's: Enid, Fairview, Cherokee, etc. If she was from that area, her family may have placed an obituary/announcement in the paper. If she owned land, you may also check probate records at the county court.
ReplyDeleteThank you for posting this - I have a great-grandmother that died in the Nevada State Hopital in Nevada, Missouri - I have found very little records on her and to this day have not found out where they buried her in Dixon, Missouri.
ReplyDeleteYou can get her death certificate free online if her death was between 1910 and 1964. I learned this researching my brother-in-law's family just this last weekend. It's not limited to only the hospital deaths. It's statewide. Go to Nevada State Hospital site and scroll down.
DeleteI have a family member who died at the Osawatatomie state hospital,death records shows he died from appendicitis.Both of his other bothers commited suicide,other family members have also taken their lives or have some form of mental illness.How do I find out what his problem was.He is found on the 1900 census as being in a House of correction in Chicago at the age of 14,listed as a prisoner,along with many children as young as 10 years old.What was this place.Thanks.Antique53@att.net
ReplyDeleteHow do I find information on Esther l. Harris? She died in Larned State Hospital.Larned is.I know her maiden name was Davis and she had 2 boys Robert and Donald Harris.
ReplyDeleteI guess I'm one of the odd ones on here. I've been looking for information on myself. I was in Topeka state hospital, Brigham ward from 1992-1997 until it was shut down. I've tried to locate my files but was told there was a fire that wiped out my files. Which has stopped me on finding any information about what they wrote they did to me. My name is Jessica Nottingham, if anyone can help,thank you
ReplyDeleteJessica, the originals were destroyed, but many were digitized and on microfilm (see below). As you know you were there at the end of it's existence. It lost it's accreditation in 1988, mostly for abuse of patients and neglect.
DeleteI'm not sure who told you the files were all destroyed, but be sure to check the Kansas Historical Society for more information. There are over 9 cubic feet of medical records. It's worth going through the logs.
Here's where you can start your research: Patient case files from 1872 until the 1960s were filmed and placed in the State Archives at the Historical Society. The originals were destroyed. Only familial relations of deceased patients and living former patients can request information from these records. Kansas Statute 65-5603, paragraph 14, specifies the information that can be released for family history research, including: dates of birth and death, dates at hospital, and names and addresses of family members. The medical information, including the DIAGNOSIS, is not open. To obtain copies from these records, please fill out and submit our request form to the reference staff along with payment for our reference fee.
And also be sure to check court records to find out more. If a3Genealogy can assist you in your search, just email me at Kathleen@a3genealogy.com or a3genealogy@gmail.com
I have a great great grandfather named Frank Hobart that died at Osawatomie in Kansas on July 4, 1906 and was buried in a mass grave. How can I learn more?
ReplyDeleteThese records, or at least the cards, are held at the Kansas State Historical in Topeka. You may also find more details through the coroner records.
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